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For episode sixteen, I spoke with Claudia Hanson Thiem over zoom to discuss cohousing, cooperative housing, and car lite living. Claudia is regular opinion writer for the Daily Camera, Boulder’s local daily newspaper but is on temporary hiatus from that work while she manages the campaign for city council candidate Nicole Speer. I admire Claudia for the way she shows up for housing justice in Boulder and the way she articulates a clear and positive vision for building inclusive communities in our city.